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Looking for information about this 99ss

Posted by Bruce Mitchell at February 21. 2017

Hi

I have a 99ss, engine 96511.  The original bike with frame number 96511 went new to Stephens Motors of Carmarthen, Wales and was sold new to someone closeby in Llanelli, Wales.

I'm in Canada, I have the engine in a non-matching numbered frame.

I'd love to know how it got here and what happened to the original frame.

Does this ring any bells for anyone?  (I see this kind of query in the News but I have no idea how to get it there.).

Thanks!

Bruce

Re: Looking for information about this 99ss

Posted by Bruce Mitchell at February 22. 2017

Previously Bruce Mitchell wrote:

Hi

I have a 99ss, engine 96511.  The original bike with frame number 96511 went new to Stephens Motors of Carmarthen, Wales and was sold new to someone closeby in Llanelli, Wales.

I'm in Canada, I have the engine in a non-matching numbered frame.

I'd love to know how it got here and what happened to the original frame.

Does this ring any bells for anyone?  (I see this kind of query in the News but I have no idea how to get it there.).

Thanks!

Bruce

 

Sent to "News".

Re: Looking for information about this 99ss

Posted by anna jeannette Dixon at February 23. 2017

hello  engine number 14-96511  was made in April 1961 and all model 99ss have Norton Manxman 650 crankcases and camshaft pushrod and followers  the rest was standard  model 99  and they were fitted with coil ignition the barrels are somewhat different to the 650  ones  so DO NOT TRY USING MODEL 99 BARRELS ON A 650  you will end up destroying the engine You have been told     and to find out more about this motorcycle contact DVLA Swansea SA99    Vehicle history search  which will cost you some cash        yours anna j

Re: Looking for information about this 99ss

Posted by Bruce Mitchell at February 27. 2017

Previously anna jeannette Dixon wrote:

hello  engine number 14-96511  was made in April 1961 and all model 99ss have Norton Manxman 650 crankcases and camshaft pushrod and followers  the rest was standard  model 99  and they were fitted with coil ignition the barrels are somewhat different to the 650  ones  so DO NOT TRY USING MODEL 99 BARRELS ON A 650  you will end up destroying the engine You have been told     and to find out more about this motorcycle contact DVLA Swansea SA99    Vehicle history search  which will cost you some cash        yours anna j

 

Duly noted!  Thanks Anna.

Re: Looking for information about this 99ss

Posted by Bruce Mitchell at February 27. 2017

According to the Webmaster no one is likely to remember without the original registration numbers which I do not have (not surprisingly as they mean nothing in Canada).  I do have the last tax disc and know it was last registered in the UK in 1979 then brought to Canada.  Surely if someone brought a 99ss to Canada around '79-'80 he/she'd remember?

The registration number is a curious one here as, back in the day, we would get a new "plate" every year from the MOT.  The number on it just indicated where you stood in line when you bought it.  Every year the number changed.   Now we get a plate and a sticker every year to update it.

Re: Looking for information about this 99ss

Posted by Bruce Mitchell at February 28. 2017

The Web Master tells me the tax disk has the registration number, I see "83 GOC" - this is under the large date but is this correct?  Is this the correct number?  I notice other posts asking about old bikes and the number is reversed on those, letters first then numerals.

Can anyone confirm?  Attached is a scan of the disk - the G, if that's what it is, is really hard to see.

Thanks!

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Re: Looking for information about this 99ss

Posted by graham_reeves at March 01. 2017

Hi,

That looks to be a valid format of registration number.

The following site may be of interest as it explains the historic formats of UK registration numbers:

http://www.cvpg.co.uk/REG.pdf

 

Based on a quick scan of the web-page the second two alpha characters ( i.e. OG) would identify the local area. A Wiki search indicates that 'O' identifies the area as Oxford.

If I am wrong, I'm sure some-one will correct me.

Re: Looking for information about this 99ss

Posted by jonathan_newton at March 01. 2017

Previously Bruce Mitchell wrote:

The Web Master tells me the tax disk has the registration number, I see "83 GOC" - this is under the large date but is this correct?  Is this the correct number?  I notice other posts asking about old bikes and the number is reversed on those, letters first then numerals.

Can anyone confirm?  Attached is a scan of the disk - the G, if that's what it is, is really hard to see.

Thanks!

 Bruce; that is the registration mark. We ran reverse numbering in mid/late 50's in some counties due to the volume of registrations after the war. In 63 we went to a suffix letter and early 80's a prefix letter. That format was common, on mortorcycles in particular, of that period.

The bike may have been sold to a UK dealer who then exported it hence the lack of response.  

Jon    

Re: Looking for information about this 99ss

Posted by john_holmes at March 01. 2017

GO was London SW, JO was Oxford, best I could get was OOC for Birmingham. As I have a Birmingham reg bike POV that is not on the Wiki list I suspect its incomplete.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_the_United_Kingdom,_Crown_dependencies_and_overseas_territories

 

Both not Wales so maybe the G is not a G

Re: Looking for information about this 99ss

Posted by Bruce Mitchell at March 01. 2017

Thanks for the replies, I also received a private message with details of who to contact at the DVLC, I'll follow that up.

The previous owner told me the, other, previous owner brought the bike over with him when he went to work at a Nuclear Power site over here.  He didn't know who that was so it's worth is???

I know from the NOC dating officer that it went to a dealer in Wales and then sold locally but after that?  It could have been sold again or the owner moved.

A mystery!

 

 

 

 

 

Re: Looking for information about this 99ss

Posted by Gordon Johnston at March 01. 2017

GOC is a Birmingham registration. Just from memory, registrations changed form AAA 111 style to 111 AAA in 1960 or 1961.

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